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Stamets,
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Actually that would be really neat if someone did that. I recently watched Hard Candy with a friend (good god that movie is horrifying) and for some reason the deadnaming (even though it isn’t actually deadnaming) just feels really weird and awkward and uncomfortable. More so than him just playing a woman. It’s strange.

Also wonder how he feels about that whole thing, come to think of it.

Stamets,
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Luke trying to kill Ben bugged me.

Never happened.

He went into his room, looked at Ben, and realized he had ignited his own saber. There was no attempt at murder or killing. It was a moment where he was caught up in the dark side but he didn’t try to actually kill Ben.

Literally what the meme is talking about though, thanks for so succinctly proving the point lol

So many people who complain about shit that never happened. Y’all are inventing your own boogeymen. There are legit problems with the movies and no one focuses on those. Instead people just make this shit up and go after stuff that was never shown and never occurred. Never seen any other fandom do this.

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I thought the acting from most of the cast was pretty solid. The visual effects were nice while still harkening back to the Original Trilogy and looking “outdated” in certain respects. I loved Poe and I thought that Phasma was pretty badass if underutilized, then again that’s kind of consistent with Star Wars at this point. I loved the new scores. Crait was visually gorgeous with the salt and red earth combination. Lightsaber battles in new locations was also really awesome, especially the snow sequence in The Force Awakens. The blue and red shining off of the snow looked so cool. I thought Takodana was a really neat location and the shots of the X-Wings flying in were stunning. Han using the Bowcaster was kind of hilarious. As someone who was raised in a really abusive household, I also really appreciated and loved the theme of not being who your family is. Ben/Kylo obviously went to the darker extreme but Rey also rebelled pretty hard against her lineage and I related to that.

To start with.

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LOL, it was your phrase dude.

No. It was yours. The meme specifically mocks that phrase by destroying it and says it doesn’t happen.

he pulled out his weapon, ignited it, and nearly swung before hesitating. So let’s say, “Luke almost trying to kill Ben,” if you wanna be pedantic about your own words.

Which isn’t pedantic. There is a considerable difference between trying to kill someone and not doing that. Almost means it may have happened but it also, very much means, that it didn’t. The whole point of the meme is mocking people like you who insist that these situations happened and then complain about it as if its fact. It isn’t. It’s your misunderstanding and misphrasing of the scene, not the scene itself. Luke never at any point tried to kill Ben and your first comment is coming saying “Hurr, he tried to kill Ben.”

Bruh.

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If you like Star Wars, why make that tone negative?

Ah yes. The meme that specifically is calling out false complaints and negativity within the community that is directed towards nothing is checks notes is actually negative itself.

Like I said. Thanks for reminding me why I love Star Wars and avoid the fanbase of it like the absolute fucking plague.

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Well I’m sorry to inform you but this was 100% the last one. It doesn’t seem to matter whether it’s OT, PT or ST. The Star Wars fandom is remarkably toxic and I’m just kind of tired of it. I don’t think I’ve ever had a conversation with a Star Wars fan that didn’t end up just them screaming about how Disney is horrible and the Sequels are a war crime and the Prequels were stupid until they weren’t and the OT was picture perfect. Every single time someone brings up anything new in Star Wars it devolves into a bitchfit. Look at this meme. The only thing it’s saying is that if you’re going to complain about the Sequels then focus on stuff that actually happened and not stuff that people invented just because they were upset that their movie didn’t go the way they wanted. What’s the comments? Exactly that. Whiny and pathetic children who are more happy to invent their own reality about how everything is awful than just cope with the fact that not everything is going to be great and not everything is going to be the way that they want it.

I started posting memes to this community on my other account months ago and had the exact same realization then. For some stupid reason a couple of weeks ago I thought “Hey, it can’t be that bad.” Nah. It was. That and the fact that the like 6 moderators here do literally nothing. Comments and posts are removed automatically because of a low score and then no mod interacts it ever. Shits being removed simply because “it was reported”. This entire community is a dumpster fire of the highest fucking proportions. Feels appropriate.

I am absolutely embarrassed to call myself a fan of Star Wars because I have to get thrown in with these pathetic losers. And this is why you’ll never see me talking about Star Wars again despite being about as big a fan of it as I am Star Trek.

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Well Discovery is definitely the cream of the crop when it comes to a rabid amount of hatred. There is some genuine criticism to be had, don’t get me wrong, but people complain of the dumbest things possible for the dumbest reason possible. That or they don’t watch the show, only know half baked things and then base everything off of that. Or saw 4 episodes of the first season and gave up but are still hating on it.

However all of those things are not new. When TNG was released it had a similar level of animosity. People fucking hated it. There were some really violent and hateful things said about the actors and even some threats thrown the way of production staff (although I could be wrong on the threats. That’s what I remember from a ConPanel anyway). People hated it. A lot of hate was given to the fact that there was a woman as Security chief, nevermind as CMO and as Counsellor. Then the fact that there was a bald and french Captain? Fucking pass. The show was lambasted and hated and didn’t start getting accepted until around Season 3 when conventions started turning. The actors all talk about this at conventions saying how it was a while before people started accepting them.

When DS9 came out? Same thing. Black Captain? Instant racism and hatred. New aliens? They all suck. It took until about Season 2-3 for people to warm up to a bit. Voyager? Exactly the same thing. Janeway was hated simply because she was a woman but a lot of people then took issue with her decisions, saying she was “too emotional” and “Kirk or Picard would have done this better”. Enterprise? Same deal. Although Enterprise frankly deserves an enormous amount of criticism (thanks to Rick Berman, may the sexist, racist, homophobic, bigoted, hateful motherfucker suffer from a rotten dick until the day he dies), it also got an undue amount of hate simply because it was new. This carried on with the Kelvin timeline movies with Pine. People lost their fucking minds. It was only placated a little when people realized it wasn’t a reboot but an alternate timeline and that it was sanctioned by Nimoy himself. Even then people still viciously hated and were opposed to it. Again, people warmed up over time although certain movies like Into Darkness are still particularly hated. Mostly because of some truly awful writing decisions.

So when Discovery rolled around nothing really changed. The same hate. It didn’t help that a lot of things were visually new. The show isn’t a reboot but a visual reboot. Everything stays within lore and canon, despite peoples complaints otherwise, as things were very carefully chosen to fit within things already established. I’ve had many discussions with people and no one has ever been able to find a single thing that doesn’t jive with pre-established lore. They just are probably not aware of the lore because Trek has so much and I do not blame them for that in the slightest. Picard carried on that tradition although the first two seasons of Picard are genuinely badly written so a lot of criticism is valid. The third season sees also an odd amount of hate based off of feelings but not of actual issues with the story, effects, characters, etc.

The only things that have sort of skated that have been Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds although both of them still do get criticized heavily. Not entirely sure why that happened but I suspect it’s because Lower Decks is so drastically different from everything that came before it while being the most heart filled love letter to Trek in history and because SNW got a lot of its backlash during Season 2 of Discovery. However SNW and LD are also just genuinely very good and started extremely well molded as opposed to literally every other Trek show in history where it takes a season or two to find its feet.

Probably more than you asked for in all honesty.

Stamets,
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Thanks lol

I like Star Trek

Stamets,
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Yeah I know what you mean. I’ve shared the same feelings. The Kelvin timeline is more of a detraction than the DSC versions, granted the Kelvin timeline version isn’t an enormous detraction, just way shinier than one would expect. However I tend to give it a pass because it’s much a product of the time (mid-late 2000s) as TOS enterprise is of the 60s.

DSC feels… nice. Especially when you compare it inline with Enterprise. In 100 years that feels like a rather neat and tidy update to what we have, even those blue uniforms. I do love those uniforms.

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Your complaint makes no sense and doesn’t hold up to any scrutiny. You are saying that there is a certain style but that style is not consistent within Trek. TOS was painfully 60s but the TOS Movies were very much not and actually quite similar to Discovery with its metallic and militaristic look. TNG? Same deal. Very 80s and then the Enterprise-E showed that same metallic look. DS9 has that look scattered in occasionally but it’s mostly alien design. Voyager has that militaristic look everywhere throughout the show, just updating the 80s TNG look to be a bit more modern. Then Enterprise did the same thing with the metallic militaristic look.

Moreover, the swing from TOS to TOS movies is more of a swing that Enterprise to Discovery, which I remind you takes place 80-90 years after so is just continuing those visuals.

Discovery, at no point, broke design moorings. It’s the same design elements that have been part of Trek since the first time Trek had money with the movies.

I find it so funny people complain about the looks of DSC when Gene Roddenberry wanted his ships to look like that when using the TOS movies as a template.

Stamets,
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No. Both.

People complain about Rise of Skywalker, quite rightly, but only half of that is the studios fault. The other half falls squarely on the fans for responding with such intense burning hatred, and no positivity, to everything that came before that the studio had no idea what the fuck to do. They messed up catastrophically, and didn’t always make good decisions, but the fans are equally responsible for being so insanely hateful and toxic.

Stamets,
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But in the best way

Stamets,
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No I do not

Stamets,
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Oh trust me, I know, it’s the only reason that people know my name lol

Stamets,
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You too can get it! Comes with stalkers, aggressive admins from instances you’ve never heard of, and a sensory overloading amount of notifications

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Good idea

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